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- From: serendip@iag.net (Joseph Shaughnessy)
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- Subject: Re: Buy Amiga <Stock>
- Date: 16 Apr 1996 03:55:04 GMT
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- Re: Buy Amiga <Stock> Was: Carl Sassenreuth at VIScorpJames
- McArthurjamesm@it.ntu.edu.au13-Apr-96 10:27:43
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- JM>: I looked up VISCorp on www.secapl.com (an Internet Stock quote service)
- JM>: found that there is a corporation trading on the NASDAQ by that name.
- JM>: symbol is VICP. Assuming that they are one and the same, here is the
- JM>: closing information (you decide if you want to buy any shares):
-
- JM>: Last Traded at: 9.6800 Date/Time : Apr 12 3:30:05
- JM>: $ Change : 0.3100 % Change : 3.31
- JM>: Volume (000) : 64.2 # of Trades: 22
- JM>: Open : 9.3700 Previous Close: 9.3700
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-
- JM> Do shares still have to be bought in blocks of 100s (1000s??)
-
- No, you can buy odd-lots (less than 100) by paying about a $ .50 premium
- per share for this option.
-
-
- I think this is such great news that I purchased several hundred shares
- today. According to my broker, VICP (VISCorp) was selling for about $ 5.50
- per share in January. It has been rising steadily since then, and was up to $
- 9-7/8th today. I managed to buy at $ 9-3/4 this morning. My expectations are
- to see it in the $ 20/shr range within a year (or not). It's a gamble, but
- most stock deals are.
-
- My reasoning on this is that no one spends (or even goes into debt) to the
- tune of $40 million unless they have a well thought out plan and knows
- something that we don't. My own guess (emphasis on GUESS) is that VISCorp has
- a deal in the works and the recent ESCOM loss and possible flagging interest
- in the Amiga would threaten the viability of their own "ED" set-top box
- product. What good is a mere license from AT if the company could be sold to
- someone else or even have the Amiga technology licensed to a possible
- competitor who sees how great the ED product is and would like to make one
- like it (using the licensed Amiga Tech from AT). AT would be glad to sell
- licenses to anyone with the money to buy it (and why not?). If VISCorp owns
- the Amiga Technology they do not have to worry about being pre-empted by a
- bigger company.
-
- From reading the stuff available about VISCorp, it looks like they had
- originally planned to come up with a set-top box using Amiga technology but
- did not plan on making the STBs themself, but licensing manufacturing
- companies to make them and pay a royalty to VISCorp. VISCorp said they planned
- to make their big bucks by providing services that could interact with their
- STB such as phone, Internet, shopping, pay-per-view, download Arcade games
- (single play or multiplayer over the net), etc., etc. Those were their
- original plans and they will probably proceed. I really think they bought AT
- to protect these plans. Evidently they think that they have a killer STB and
- they may be right. They've bet $40 million on this. Thier price point was
- supposed to be about $ 300.00 per unit. The rest of the PC industry is
- shooting, hoping, praying for a STB unit at $ 500.00 each and with probably
- less capabilites than the Amiga. That is a tremendous price advantage,
- especially if the lower priced unit has a better presentation. The Amiga OS is
- mature. The competitor set-top boxes have beta-ware OS. Can anyone imagine
- Windows on a STB? Hahahahahahah ;-)
-
- Many of you are new to all this. I first purchased CBM stock at $ 15.00 per
- share and rode it to over $ 120.00/share (equivalent with stock splits) and
- then rode it down again to $ 30.00/share. This was in the glory days of the
- VIC-20 and theC64. CBM won the computer wars with Atari and Texas
- Instrument computers because they could make them cheap. At one point in the
- home computer wars the TI-99-4A was being sold in KMart for $10 less than the
- cost of manufacture. The VIC-20 only cost $30.00 each to make and was being
- sold at a profit. In any event, no company can sell their product at a loss
- and survive over the long term. If VISCorp has a $ 200.00 per unit price
- advantage, it is an easy horse race to predict. I love owning part of a
- company that has this kind of advantage.
-
- Having put my money where my mouth is, I can only say Hooray for VISCorp
- buying AT. I think they will continue developing with AT and Amiga developers
- and will also expect AT to pay their way (buy selling Amigas, of course...
- what do you think, VISCorp is running a charity for German computer experts).
- I only hope that VISCorp leveraged some retail display space in ESCOM stores
- as part of the deal.
-
- BTW, $40 million is a pretty hefty price. I'm wondering if there weren't
- other bidders trying to buy AT and forcing the price up. Either that or ESCOM
- was a reluctant seller or VISCorp an anxious purchaser. Someday we may know
- this.
-
- this is the best I've felt about the Amiga's future in 2 years.
-
- Shag
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